HomeMy WebLinkAboutMin - PC - 1972.09.11THE CITY OF BURLINGAME PLANNING COMMISSION
September 11, 1972
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT COMMISSIONERS ABSENT OTHERS PRESENT
Cistulli None
Jacobs
Kindig
Mink
Norberg
Sine
Taylor
CALL TO ORDER
City Planner Swan
City Attorney Karmel
City Engineer Harr
The monthly study meeting of the Burlingame Planning Commission was
called to order on the above date at 8:00 p.m., Chairman Cistulli
presiding.
ROLL CALL
All members of the commission were present.
APPLICATIONS
1. SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A RECREATION VEHICLE DEALERSHIP IN AN M-1
DISTRICT AT ADRIAN COURT AND ADRIAN ROAD BY BAYWEST ASSOCIATES.
Chairman Cistulli announced this application for study. City Planner
Swan distributed a revised site plan and requested the two representatives
of Baywest present, Mr. Carl Kirker and Mr. Wright, to explain it.
He noted correspondence from Baywest under date of September 7 which
commented on revisions in the plan and stated that a separate letter
concerning the problem of chemical wastes would be submitted to
City Engineer Marr on Friday, September 8.
Mr. Carl Kirker explained revisions in the site plan. He stated the
ultimate development for this project would be 130 recreational
vehicles on site. He showed parking space for these plus parking
spaces for employees and customers in front and customer parking for
the service department. He noted figures obtained from larger facilities
of this type in Denver and Los Angeles show a maximum of eight vehicles
in the shop at any one time.
The Baywest representative said that if the permit is granted, the
firm will probably ask for a construction permit for a temporary
building in the area on the north side of Adrian Court for temporary
facilities while the south parcel was being fully developed. He
thought this would be for about six months.
He went on to say that the principal vehicle sold would be the 24'
Winnebago model home. There are six different models, with small
variations among these six. They will also sell trailers and
campers. It is proposed to park the trailers, etc. north of Adrian
Court and the motor homes south of Adrian Court. There was discussion
of the different types of vehicles. Vehicles are not shipped by rail
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but driven from the factory.
There was also discussion of the outside communication system,
which Mr. Kirker said would be handled by one central speaker.
Objections were that this would create too much disturbance, and a
chime system was suggested or individual walkie-talkies.
There was also objection to a set of stairs with short risers
on the plan. It was proposed to drive the vehicles up these to a
display area, but Baywest was informed there would have to be a ramp
instead. The City Planner commented that there was more than enough
parking for this multi -purpose facility presently shown on the plans,
but there was discussion of how a future building for either sales
or display would relate to the parking situation.
Shop facilities were discussed. It was stated that the motor and
chassis work would be done at the Dodge dealership. With this
exception, facilities for complete repair would be offered, including
vehicle equipment such as refrigerators, air conditioning, stoves,
propane system, etc.
It was established that this facility would include both sales and
rentals of recreation vehicles, as well as sale of used automobiles
when taken in trade. Application has been made for a used car dealer-
ship license, contingent upon Planning Commission approval of this
application.
The Baywest representative gave City Engineer Marr a letter for
his consideration detailing their waste disposal problem. Baywest
wishes a direct dump of waste products into the City's sewage system.
City Engineer Marr commented on the city ordinance regarding septic
tanks and requested toxicity samples. There will be further investigation
of this problem and consultation with the City Engineer during the
period prior to the public hearing.
City Planner Swan reported that the sign shown on the plan shall meet
the code regulation of 35' height in the M-1 district. Details must
be submitted. He also noted that the temporary structure to be
built on the northern parcel would require a special permit. Mr.
Wright told him that Baywest has an established sign program with
several different types. They will make a choice of the type of sign,
conforming to code. Mr. Wright also discussed the future possibility
of getting permission to cross the S.P. spur adjacent to the southern
parcel, and negotiating to use part of the P.G.E. easement for more
storage.
Chairman Cistulli scheduled a public hearing for this application
on September 25, 1972. The applicant was cautioned that elevation and
floor plans must be presented at this meeting, as well as sign details;
and that the Fire Department Inspector must report to the City on
their propane tanks and storage facilities.
2. VARIANCE TO ALLOW A 6-UNIT APARTMENT IN AN R-2 DISTRICT AT
1105 CAPUCHINO AVENUE, BEING LOT 14, BLOCK 5, EASTON ADDITION BY
LES ALEXANDER
Plot plans were distributed and studied for this six -unit apartment.
Mr. Les Alexander, in his comments on the plans, stated that there
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will be four 2-bedroom two bath units, and two 2-bedroom one bath
units, a total of 12 bedrooms, 10 baths. This will be a two story
building with parking on the ground level, and either a balcony or
a courtyard is supplied for every unit to give more open area. He
stated this building meets all the requirements for an R-3 zone. He
added that limiting it to five units would be economically infeasible.
City Planner Swan commented he was already on record as recommending
A parking spaces per unit. He spoke of a modification to off-street
parking regulations proposed by the parking commission which would
provide 1;j spaces for each unit with 2 bedrooms and one bath, and
2 spaces for units with two bathrooms irrespective of the number of
bedrooms. He noted that the parking for Mr. Alexander's building
.does conform to the present code.
There were adverse comments on the building's elevations to the effect
that they could be made more attractive.
This application was scheduled for public hearing on September 25.
3. POSSI_BLE AMBIGUITY OF USES IN THE M-1 DISTRICT. REPO-DEPO,
1669 OID-BAYSHORE, RONALD A. ROSBERG
City Planner Swan introduced this subject as applying to a sign
application from REPO Depot. REPO: -Depot had applied to the Building
Inspector for a permit for this identification pole type sign, and
he had referred the application to the Planning Commission as being for
an advertising structure. The City Planner told the Commission the
matter was being brought to them as either an amendment to the special
permit at that location or as an ambiguity of use. He went on to say
that 1/3 to 1/2 of the sign was used for identification and the
remaining portion would be used as a readerboard.
Cyrus McMillan, attorney for Mr. Rosberg, showed the Commission a
colored rendering of the proposed sign, and stated he did not agree
with the City Planner; it is not necessary for the Planning Commission
to hear this legal sign -application. He felt that the building
inspector had erred in referring this to them. He commented that the
area -on the sign which is readerboard would have no more square footage
than the existing sandwich board sign. The sign would be 20' high,
and the sign portion would be 13' wide by 8140 deep:. Mr. McMillan
stressed this sign would be in accordance with the code.
City Planner Swan emphasized that the previous special permit had been
granted in accordance with plans. Since this sign was not on the
plans, it constitutes a change in their use permit. Another way of
looking at it is an ambiguity of use.
There was some Commission discussion. Commissioner Cistulli wanted
confirmation that the sign did conform to code, but Commissioner
Kindig felt that if the sign application were heard as an amendment
to the special permit, it would give the Commission a chance to correct
some of the other areas in question. Commissioner Jacobs hoped that
this last sign would eliminate all the other signs and placards at
this establishment.
Mr. Ronald Rosberg addressed the commission and spoke of $2 000 s nt
in remodeling and on interior carpeting. He noted that he chid notes
want the present sandwich board, but his store sets so far back from
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the highway that a noticeable sign is necessary, especially since
his business has improved -to the point that people are coming to him
for supplies instead of their past sources in South San Francisco
and Redwood City. He stated, "If we get approval we will take the
sandwich board down and go along with any other stipulations."
In response to Chairman'. Cistulli's question does the sign meet the
code, the City Planner stated that more sign details must be provided
in order to make this determination.
The City Attorney was asked for his opinion and stated that this was
apparently a pole sign with an eccentric arm which contained a reader -
board. Probably the building inspector had in mind the part of the
sign ordinance dealing with advertising structures, and he is
authorized to refer such applications to the Planning commission. The
City Attorney noted that the Planning Commission may be hearing both
an ambiguity of use and a special permit for an advertising structure.
This item was set for public hearing September 25, 1972.
4. POSSIBLE AMBIGUITY OF USES IN M-1 DISTRICT - TANFORAN DODGE,
1699 BAYSHORE HIGHWAY.
The City Planner told the Commission that Tanforan Dodge had made
application for a business license in order to store new automobiles
outside at this location. Storage of merchandise is permitted in the
M-1 district if it is inside. He pointed out that while this use
could be considered similar to a car rental agency, outside storage of
new vehicles could present several problems, one of which was security.
He felt it was a use to be permitted only with a special permit, and
requested clarification of Commission opinion on this point.
There was Commission discussion. If customers entered the lot, it would
be considered a retail lot. However, it was possible that customers
who had already bought a car entered the lot only to pick out the
color, etc. for their purchase.
It was the consensus of opinion that the Commission should have
control of this situation and should require a special permit. The
City Planner agreed to so advise the applicant so that they could put
this matter on the agenda for the forthcoming month.
COMMUNICATIONS:
1.' Underground Utilities Coordinating Committee. Secretary Jacobs
read a letter dated September 6, 1972 from City Manager Charles Schwa&
requesting that a member of the Planning Commission be chosen to serve
on this committee. Chairman Cistulli suggested Commissioner Thomas
Sine, and Commissioner Sine agreed to serve.
2. Resolution. Secretary Jacobs read Resolution 61-72 adopted September 5,
1972 which provides for the removal of commissioners for non-attendance.
Chairman Cistulli announced Commissioner Kindig would be excused
for the next three meetings - two regular meetings and one study meeting -
since he would be out of town.
3. Chris Hendrickson Report. The City Planner commented that this
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report, "Comments on Planning Issues in Burlingame," mailed to
Commissioners earlier, was entirely the work of Chris Hendrickson
and he had not assisted in any way. Commissioners indicated very
favorable reaction to Mr. Hendrickson's report.
4. Planning commission Letter to Chris Hendrickson. The City
Planner announced he had prepared a letter of Commission apprecck tion
to Planning Intern Hendrickson. This was individually signed by
members of the Commission. Mr. Hendrickson's report and a copy of
the Commission letter will be transmitted to the City Council.
Miscellaneous:
League of California Cities Conference. Date for this conference is
October 14 - 18. Commissioner Sine indicated he would attend.
Chairman Cistulli and Commissioner Taylor may attend.
CATV: The City Planner reported that Commissioner Mink will be
attending this conference in Los Angeles on September 28 and that
he will be serving as :representative of both the School Board and of
the Planning Commission. The City Planner indicated that part of
Commissioner Mink's expenses could be defrayed from the Planning
Commission budget.
Extension Courses: The City Planner distributed literature relative
to extension courses being offered by various universities for the
i planning field. He also reportedto the Commission on a research
project conducted in Marin County which he attended. This was termed
"Environmental Simulation" and tested the reaction of people to their
environment in terms of different types of visual stimuli. The City
Planner had obtained copies of one test which he distributed to
Commissioners for their opinions.
Secretary Malcolm Jacobs was excused at 9:35 to take care of personal
business.
John Devine Resubdivision. It was noticed that Mr. Devine was in the
audience and he was asked if he wished to address the Commission.
He replied it was his understanding that his resubdivision inap was to
be signed tonight. There was discussion, and it was determined from
the Commission minutes that this map would be accepted by the Commission
only after certain conditions were met - one of which was the removal
of part of the building on one lot. Mr. Devine was so informed. He
then stated the conditions would be carried out before he expected
the map to be signed.
R-2A District Regulations. The City Planner introduced this subject
for discussion, using as a basis his second draft of the R-2A District
regulations. He spoke of this draft as an abstract with the goal of
creating another zoning district and establishing policy and guidelines.
Since the regulations require a lot area of not less than 9,000 square
feet, he gave an illustration of what could be done with two 45'
adjoining lots for investment purposes. This combination would accommo-
date four dwelling units. He commented that R-2A regulations could be
used as design guidelines for a variance without reclassification.
The City Planner stated that R-2A would be consistent with the
medium density of the General Plan, which permits 20 units per net
acre. R-2A would permit 19 units per net acre. He went on to say
that this could be a guide to a modest type of private redevelopment,
such as townhouses. He commented that these regulations are fairly
tight, with 50% lot coverage and a double enclosed garage for each unit.
There was discussion about the large amount of garage coverage, and the
comment was made that the dwelling units would have to be upstairs
over the garages and not all people can use this type of house.
Suggestions were made that 55% or 60% coverage be allowed, or that
there be a full basement with underground parking. There was also
the comment that there will be mass transit in the future, and this
might obviatethe need for so much parking. The City Planner suggested
an alternate coverage of 60% on corner lots.
Commissioner Sine thought 60% on the corner lot was good but he would
rather see other lots go to 55%, since the cost of land is prohibitive.
Chairman Cistulli thought the regulations too restrictive, and with
the shortage of available land it would be strictly spot zoning.
Commissioner Kindig favored proposal of the resolution with subsequent
changes as desired. Commissioner Mink also favored proposal.
The City Planner commented that this was the fourth time this
regulation had been presented to the Planning Commission for consider-
ation, and the time spent doing professional planning should receive
support in the way of a decision. There was..much further discussion,
particularly with regard to using these R-2A regulations as a guideline
and not as a specific zone.
It was the consensus of opinion that these regulations should be
passed on by the Commission and presented to the City Council for its
opinion with regard to ordinance change. It was agreed the City Planner
would redraft Item 4, which has to do with lot coverage, so that the
proposed regulations could be considered at the public meeting of
September 25.
Site Plan and Architectural Review. There was much discussion pro and
con on the feasibility of an architectural review board. Some of the
ideas expressed were: that there would be too many different view-
points, particularly on aesthetics, for agreement; that single family
residences should be excluded from its jurisdiction; that it would be
a deterrent to bad design. However, it was agreed that this item should
be set for public hearing two months hence when the full commission
would be present. it was suggested that the Planning Commission hold
a joint meeting with the City Council on this subject, and the City
Attorney verified that this would present no problem.
The City Planner showed the Commission plans of a highrise building
on the waterfront which is outside the jurisdiction of B.C.D.C. It is
under active review to determine conformance with all City codes,
but may be most objectionable because of difficulty in providing
adequate fire protection. He commented an architectural review system
would be of value in this instance, and suggested that prior to the
issuance of a building permit there could be a stipulation that a
special permit be obtained.
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There was a discussion of -the valet parking at the Fisherman Restaurant.
It was reported that there are cars parked blocking the City easement,
and it was suggested that this be brought up for rehearing. The
City Attorney made the comment that since this easement is for
entrance of City emergency vehicles, sending a police car to drive
through the easement might cause the restaurant managers to make
other arrangements for their parking.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 11:15 P.M.
Respectfully,submitted,
Malcolm M. Jacobs
Secretary