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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMin - PC- 2020.11.09BURLINGAME CITY HALL 501 PRIMROSE ROAD BURLINGAME, CA 94010 City of Burlingame Meeting Minutes Planning Commission 7:00 PM OnlineMonday, November 9, 2020 1. CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 p.m. - Online A duly noticed meeting of the Burlingame Planning Commission was held on the above date online at 7:02 p.m. Staff in attendance: Planning Manager Ruben Hurin, Community Development Director Kevin Gardiner, and Interim City Attorney Scott Spansail. 2. ROLL CALL Sargent, Comaroto, Terrones, Tse, Gaul, Loftis, and SchmidPresent7 - 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES There were no minutes to approve. 4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA There were no changes to the agenda. 5. PUBLIC COMMENTS, NON-AGENDA There were no public comments. 6. STUDY ITEMS a.Establishment of the City of Burlingame Historic Register Staff Report Attachments Attachments: Community Development Director Gardiner provided an overview of the staff report. Questions of staff: >There were no questions of staff. Chair Tse opened the public hearing. Commission Questions/Comments: >The last paragraph of the staff report says, "While eligibility to be included in the Burlingame Historic Register is currently limited to properties within the boundaries of the Downtown Specific Plan, City Council has expressed interest in expanding eligibility to include other neighborhoods in the future." Does this mean until and unless other neighborhoods are defined and open to this process that properties outside the Downtown Specific Plan area cannot apply for this? (Gardiner: That’s correct.) So it's just in Page 1City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes that area? (Gardiner: Yes. What we'll probably see in the future, is that it may not be that we'll add neighborhood by neighborhood, but more likely we'll allow it to be for any property within the entire city . Again, it's a voluntary listing and a property would need to demonstrate its eligibility. The City Council felt if somebody was interested and they wanted to use the incentive and qualify for a Mills Act Contract or something like that, it should be available. We need to amend the ordinance in order to do that, so it takes more time. That's the long range plan.) >Under the criteria for significance on the Historic Register application form, there are several check boxes. Under buildings of historical significance, they have some bullets listed as: where important events occurred; associated with famous people, original settlers, renowned organizations and businesses; and which were originally present when the city was founded. It appears that the last phrase should be part of the preceding phrase, correct? (Gardiner: That's a mistake in the bulleted list, we'll correct it.) >This document states it is the property owners who can request to be added to this registry. Can members of the public bring resources or elements for consideration for this registry? (Gardiner: It’s really not designed that way. It's meant to be property owner driven. If somebody thought there was some element of a property that was of interest, but the property owner wasn't planning to do anything to it, we could certainly pass that along to the property owner, but it really is if the property owner wants to have them listed.) >Once this is active, would the Planning Commission be meeting to establish a subcommittee to create any kind of procedure or standards to operate? (Gardiner: At this time, we don't see that. Over time if we see that the role of the Historic Preservation Commission is more involved, then that might make sense. As it is now, the scope of what the Historic Preservation Commission would be overseeing is fairly limited. It's accepting and making determinations on a request to be added to the register. And then it's also to look at, for example, a project that was utilizing a historic resource to determine if the project was consistent with the Secretary of the Interior ’s Standards for historic preservation. So it's not unlike what the Planning Commission has already been doing. But over time, if a more robust historic preservation program were to be developed, then we can cross that bridge at that time.) Public Comments: >There were no public comments. Chair Tse closed the public hearing. Commission Discussion/Direction: >There was no further discussion on this item and no action was required by the Planning Commission. 7. CONSENT CALENDAR There were no Consent Calendar Items. 8. REGULAR ACTION ITEMS a.1120 Cambridge Road, zoned R-1 - Application for Design Review for a first and second story addition to an existing single family dwelling. This project is Categorically Exempt from review pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), per Section 15301 (e)(1). (Gary Ahern, Focal Point Design, architect and applicant; Christine and Jeremy Wilkinson, property owners) (123 noticed) Staff Contact: Erika Lewit 1120 Cambridge Rd - Staff Report 1120 Cambridge Rd - Attachments 1120 Cambridge Rd - Plans Attachments: Page 2City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes All Commissioners have visited the project site. There were no ex-parte communications to report. Planning Manager Hurin provided an overview of the staff report. Questions of staff: >There were no questions of staff. Chair Tse opened the public hearing. Gary Ahern, Focal Point Design, represented the applicant. Commission Questions/Comments: >On the right side elevation, the drawing is a little deceiving because of the way it has been rendered . Shingles are only shown on the addition portion and when you picture the rest of that elevation with shingles, it becomes a broad elevation. Looking at this from a design study review standpoint, we would probably have some issues or concerns with that. >Is there any possibility of having a bay at the top second story window that's set in a pattern of three? The wall may be broad enough to accommodate a bed and be popped out along the roof eave line. The resulting elevation looks fairly awkward and it has a lot of exposure because it's along a driveway. Did you take a look at that or have any thoughts on what you could do there? (Ahern: A concern was that privacy was a big issue at that location. With the proximity of the neighbor next door, there is about four feet between the fence and the neighbor's house, that's why we decided to go with the high transom windows over the bed to provide as much privacy as possible. We did look at putting narrow double -hung windows over each of the bedside tables, but we were concerned about neighbors feeling there were privacy issues with doing that. As far as cantilevering out to create a bay window, that would make me a little nervous because that might become a hindrance with the driveway. I did look at potentially taking the rake of the roof and trying to bring it down. When you're on site, you realize there's not much of an overhang on that, but if it's something that staff or Commission feels strongly about, we might be able to bring that rake fascia down, but I don't know if that's going to do much.) Having difficulty with the resulting elevation, it's something we typically would focus in on even though it's on a side because of that driveway exposure. >The 3D sketch you provided was great, that was very helpful. At the rear elevation, there is a recessed patio with a vertical element where a window is centered on the second floor. Is there a reason why the window at the nook area couldn't be centered underneath that set of windows ? The windows at the nook don't necessarily have a specific relationship with the built -in bench at the nook, but looking at this elevation and the 3D sketch, that window centered on the window above and the gable peak above creates a nice vertical element. (Ahern: As architects, symmetry is very important. That window is designed to be a corner window that's going to be over the breakfast nook. If you look over the kitchen, I’ve got a corner bank and the dual double wide window and a single wide window that's on the side property line. Typically, I would have liked to drag those windows a little closer to make it a true corner window, but at this point, we're trying to resolve the structural design and I didn't want to pin myself into a situation where I had the windows shown completely smashed against the corner, and then have to come back and say I need a little bit more space there. But the window in the rear is designed to be more viewed from the inside of the house and it is centered on the banquet.). It's not centered on the banquet and it doesn't have the same corner relationship as the one on the driveway side. (Ahern: The intent is to have the same relationship on the side and that might have been something we made a change at the last minute. I might not have completely coordinated that through. But the intent for that window is to give a feeling that the window is designed to be on the center itself, because when you put a table there and hang a light over it, it doesn't smash all the way to the edge because you have the seating area that's there. So the center of the window is more or less center line of where the table and light would be; it should be 16 inches from the outside corner to each edge window.) It's shown that way on the plan, but not on the elevation. >Agree with my fellow commissioner that the window would look better if it was aligned. Should Page 3City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes consider pulling the window over more to the middle to create a corner experience with a door going to the patio; you might be able to achieve the centering of the window underneath the window above and you'll have a good corner experience. >Concerned about the driveway elevation, it's a big elevation and a lot of siding once you get done. >I like the belly band that you're using on the rear elevation and wonder how you stop it. Coming around the corner, don’t know how you get to the old eave line and come up with a way to stop. There may be a way to break it up materially without actually changing the whole structure of that side. (Ahern: I did take a look at that and you brought up a good point. Wrapping the belly band around is difficult because there's no real overhang on the main roof, it would be awkward. It would accentuate the fact that it was an add on a little bit more. It’s not absolutely ideal, but trying to add a little character in there and windows, it helped break that up a little bit.) So that side at the top doesn't really project that much from the house, does it? (Ahern: No.) You have to continue that trim down and end it at a belly band. >(Ahern: One more point on that rear window, if you did take that window and try to center it below the window in the master bedroom, the side wall between the master bedroom and the bathroom is not lined up over the side wall, so the center line of that gable is not the center line of the kitchen. So we go into that sort of either put something dead on or make it far enough off it doesn't look like you missed it .) Agreed. >Agree with my fellow commissioners on the same two points. By playing around with that rear elevation, it will create some flexibility to get the windows aligned. It would be nice if you can see what can be done to address the interior design perspective as well. (Ahern: If this is a sticking point , I'm sure we can work with centering that window.) Great. >I noticed you're proposing vinyl windows for the rear of the house. What are the existing windows? (Ahern: Vinyl.) Public Comments: >There were no public comments. Chair Tse closed the public hearing. Commission Discussion/Direction: >Appreciate the high windows in the bedroom along the right side elevation. That elevation is tough to deal with your neighbors and everybody looking at windows. Had them and liked them a lot, it's a nice addition. >Would like to reiterate the concern about the big blank wall along the right side elevation. The elevation is deceptive because the new addition area only is rendered as shingle, so it's a very deceiving elevation. Something needs to happen there, won't suggest what, but you should look at that. >Agree with my fellow commissioners. We like to see that window changed at the bottom, but other than that, it's a nice design. >It's a nice project. They're not asking for anything other than design review considerations. Having a difficulty making the third finding for architectural style, mass and bulk of the structure in terms of the design review criteria because of that right side elevation. Not prepared to take action on this. With the rest of what has been presented to us and the floor plan organized as nicely as it is, the architect can figure out solutions for that right side and it wouldn't hang this project up on the rear elevation in terms of that nook window, but being that there are some issues with that right side elevation, this is not ready for action yet. Vice-Chair Terrones made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Comaroto, to place the item on the Regular Action Calendar when the application has been revised as directed. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye:Sargent, Comaroto, Terrones, Tse, Gaul, Loftis, and Schmid7 - b.1523 Chapin Avenue, zoned R-1 - Application for Design Review and Special Permit for Page 4City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes declining height envelope for a new, two -story single family dwelling and detached garage. This project is Categorically Exempt from review pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), per Section 15303 (a) of the CEQA Guidelines. (James Chu, Chu Design Associates, applicant and designer; Megan Leung, property owner) (84 noticed) Staff Contact: Michelle Markiewicz 1523 Chapin Ave - Staff Report 1523 Chapin Ave - Attachments 1523 Chapin Ave - Plans Attachments: All Commissioners have visited the project site. Commissioner Comaroto was recused from this item for non-statutory reasons. Commissioner Terrones was not present for the Design Review study meeting, but did review the staff report, meeting minutes and video of the hearing for this item. Chair Tse was not present at the previous meeting, but did read the meeting minutes and visited the site and is familiar with the project discussion. Panning Manager Hurin provided an overview of the staff report. Questions of staff: >There were no questions of staff. Chair Tse opened the public hearing. James Chu, Chu Design Associates represented the applicant with property owners Johnson Kwan and Megan Leung. Commission Questions/Comments: >There were no questions or comments. Public Comments: >There were no public comments. Chair Tse closed the public hearing. Commission Discussion/Direction: >Agree with the statements that were made at the Design Review study meeting that it's a very well-designed piece of architecture. Somewhat pure in its iconic form, therefore that offers sound support for the Special Permit for declining height envelope. Being that we would otherwise have to take a bite out of that side of the elevation, and which is one of the reasons why we have allowances for that type of Special Permit. >Listened carefully to the discussion on the trees. Would like to share, both with the applicant and with the public, that we look carefully at the issue of protected size trees. We don't have a specific heritage designation for something this large. The public would generally be surprised that we haven't had too many trees of this size requested for removal. There's a good healthy respect for trees of this size and we look carefully at those. I am certainly not implying disrespect on the applicant's part for those trees because they seem sincere about what they were saying about the trees. When we do have applications for these kinds of trees to be removed, we have to look carefully at them especially when we have an arborist report like we have before us. When an arborist puts their license on the line and make statements about the possible failure of these trees, one can't go counter to that and insist that trees be kept, we have to take Page 5City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes that into close consideration. With that said, it's a good application. It was nearly placed on the Consent Calendar from the last meeting. The project should move forward. Appreciate my fellow commissioners putting this on Regular Action so we could comment on it. Like the changes that have been made to bolster the landscaping and decrease the hardscape in the rear yard. It's a nice project. >Would reiterate what was said at the last meeting. This is a really nice project ...it's very well done . Appreciate the changes that were made to refine it even more. >There's an exterior lighting regulation in the Municipal Code that requires that the cone of light for exterior lighting be kept entirely on the property. It's not well adhered to and this could be because the projects are not signed off at nighttime, they ’re signed off during the daytime. But walking around neighborhoods, this is bothersome. The reason in bringing this up is because these light fixtures are the types that one is going to see a bulb shining and even putting that behind a piece of a translucent glass won't comply with the regulations. We really need to get a handle on light pollution in our town. So make sure that when you choose the light fixtures that they comply with code regulations. Other than that, it's fantastic. >Overall, this is a very nice project. The house looks good. It’s within the design guidelines and it meets all of the setback and height requirements. There's an opportunity lost with removing that tree . Sometimes it's worth it to make a concession in the design or with the amount of square footage you're looking for to save a tree or to do something that doesn't necessarily follow the path that we usually see in these designs. Not going to vote against the project, but wanted to say that it's not always about making the most out of the square footage or filling up the lot as much as you can. Sometimes there are items or elements of a site that need to be preserved. In this case, the oak tree at least should have been worked around and the ADU redesigned in the garage to work around it. There's plenty of space on the lot, but will not stand in the way of the project. >Thank you for the added trees in the rear and middle to try and break up the hardscape that we talked about the last time. Appreciate that you listened to that and found a way to add trees, you're going to enjoy your backyard a little bit more. >Really like the project. Commissioner Sargent made a motion, seconded by Vice-Chair Terrones, to approve the application. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye:Sargent, Terrones, Tse, Gaul, Loftis, and Schmid6 - Recused:Comaroto1 - c.708 Newhall Road, zoned R-1 - Application for Design Review for a new, two -story single family dwelling and Special Permit for an attached garage. This project is Categorically Exempt from review pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), per Section 15303 (a) of the CEQA Guidelines. (James Chu, Chu Design Associates, Inc ., applicant and designer; Nejasmich Developments LLC, property owner) (91 noticed) Staff Contact: 'Amelia Kolokihakaufisi 708 Newhall Rd - Staff Report 708 Newhall Rd - Attachments 708 Newhall Rd - Plans Attachments: All Commissioners have visited the project site. There were no ex-parte communications to report. Planning Manager Hurin provided an overview of the staff report. Questions of staff: >There were no questions of staff. Page 6City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Chair Tse opened the public hearing. James Chu, Chu Design Associates, represented the applicant with property owner Matt Nejasmich. Commission Questions/Comments: >There were no questions or comments. Public Comments: >Alice Devine: Is the square footage, 3900 square feet, within the FAR for the lot? (Hurin: Yes, it is. The FAR does include the attached garage as well. It is within the maximum allowed for this lot.) What is the maximum allowed square footage for this lot? (Hurin: The maximum floor area allowed for this lot including the attached garage is 3,935 square feet and they are proposing 3,933 square feet.) (Chu: We would be allowed an additional 400 square feet if the house had a detached garage, but the applicant chose to have an attached garage so we're well under the maximum allowed.) Chair Tse closed the public hearing. Commission Discussion/Direction: >Like the project and can see approving this. >I liked the project originally. The changes to the front porch are going to be a nice addition. Brought up the planter idea, the elevations are going to work out fine. Can see this project moving forward as well. >Agree, it’s a very well-designed house. Appreciate the correction on the drafting error and the revisions that were made, they're nice improvements. >Wanted to ask staff if there is any way to address the letter that was received from Dr. Scott regarding mitigating impacts of construction noise during the day while people are working and attending school from home during the pandemic. Are there adjusted hours of construction at all during this time? (Hurin: We can discuss this with the chief building official in terms of construction hours. However, the hours of concern that were expressed by the neighbor were 8:00 am to 5:00 pm, don't know how much can be done to address those concerns since they are within the construction hours allowed. The contractor or the applicant can work with the next door neighbor to mitigate the noise. But as far as the code goes, we don't have anything in the code that would address construction if someone adjacent to the construction site is working/remote schooling from home.) >With respect to the letter about the noise, it's a really slippery slope even if it were possible to do something. Thursdays at my neighborhood is landscape maintenance day and I ’m sitting here during meetings all day and certainly can ’t do anything about that. We simply can't shut down the world because we're all in this situation. It's very inconvenient, but it's a fact of life right now. >Would like to reiterate my request that the exterior light fixtures meet the requirements of the Municipal Code. >It's a great project and they have done a really nice job with it. Agree with the comments about the noise, it's a tough situation. Not sure what we can do to balance the desire for quiet time with the rights of the homeowner to develop their property, particularly during the hours of normal construction. Commissioner Sargent made a motion, seconded by Vice-Chair Terrones, to approve the application. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye:Sargent, Comaroto, Terrones, Tse, Gaul, Loftis, and Schmid7 - 9. DESIGN REVIEW STUDY a.1549 Los Montes Drive, zoned R-1 - Application for Design Review, Hillside Area Construction Permit, and Special Permit for attached garage for a first and second story Page 7City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes addition and substantial construction to an existing single family dwelling. (Angelina Chuong, applicant and designer; Thomas Lo, property owner) (106 noticed) Staff Contact: 'Amelia Kolokihakaufisi 1549 Los Montes Dr - Staff Report 1549 Los Montes Dr - Attachments 1549 Los Montes Dr - Plans Attachments: All Commissioners have visited the project site. There were no ex-parte communications to report. Planning Manager Hurin provided an overview of the staff report. Questions of staff: >There were no questions of staff. Chair Tse opened the public hearing. Angelina Chuong, represented the applicant with property owners Thomas and Candace Lo. Commission Questions/Comments: >Is the declining height envelope issue the reason why the second floor steps in 1’-2” along the right-hand side at the front elevation? (Chuong: Yes.) How is that area above the first floor going to be roofed? The house steps in on the second floor. (Chuong: It will be recessed 1’-2” from the first floor wall .) What would the roofing be over that? (Chuong: It's a flat area, but with a slope to drain water. We're using standing seam metal.) I can't see that working. >On the landscape plan, in the rear where the existing garage is being removed, there's a note that says “regrade existing concrete driveway /garage for smooth transition from the street at 15% grade or less on work.” What is that area in the rear yard intended for? (Chuong: Owner have three young kids and they want to have some yard space, so we want to keep it as an existing concrete slab at the back for a playground for the kids.) Is the driveway going to remain along that side and the garage out front? (Chuong: No. The driveway is going to be more lined up with the proposed garage.) The existing driveway is noted on the new landscape plan and erosion control plan as concrete. Is that going to remain as a concrete area? (Chuong: Yes.) What's the purpose for that area? (Chuong: To cut down the construction cost. If we have to remove all of the existing concrete, it probably will add much more cost to the project.) >Had the same concern about the concrete. On the new site plan, it looks like your landscaping back there is at the 15 foot setback line. Then on your new landscaping and erosion control plan, you shown existing lawn and the hedge is closer to the fence. Which one is correct? (Chuong: It's more detailed on the landscaping plan.) So sheet A -1.2 would be the correct one? (Chuong: Yes. It's more detailed, that is the correct sheet.) Your hedge is shown at the edge of your concrete slab on sheet A -1.1. On your new erosion control plan, sheet A -1.2, it looks like the hedge is five feet off the back fence. It's an existing lawn and after visiting the site, saw that it's not much of a lawn. (Chuong: We are going with sheet A -1.2.) The plans should be corrected that so that they are consistent. >Will the new CMU block wall and column on the new front elevation have the same graphic below the horizontal tiles? (Chuong: Yes, we're going to provide a new horizontal tile. Below that is the CMU to match with the existing.) Do you have a horizontal tile picked out? (Chuong: No, not yet.) >Have you identified the material for your window? In the staff report, it says "unknown." (Chuong: We are considering using a dark color anodized aluminum windows.) So it will be an aluminum window? (Chuong: Yes.) >What will be your roofing material? (Chuong: For the roofing material, we're using standing seam metal.) What about on the flat roof of the second floor? (Chuong: It would be the same roofing material .) Not familiar with using that material on a flat roof, will that work? (Chuong: For the flat roof, no one is using tile and gravel anymore. The neighborhood predominantly has pitched roofs. We tried to cut down the Page 8City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes height of the proposed house so we designed it as a flat roof.) The concern is it will be visible from the neighborhood up above. (Chuong: Yes. We already picked standing seam metal, but can consider your suggestions about the flat roof material.) Don't believe standing seam metal is going to work. (Chuong: The roof will have a slight slope on it, it's not completely flat.) >Understand that a lot of houses overlook each other in the hillside area. In looking at a couple of your windows at the right side elevation, they're in the bathroom and most of those windows on the second floor are not really view windows. Wondering if you have considered using smaller windows that are higher up so that you still get the light, but don't necessarily have the view looking down into the neighbor's yard. That may be a way to consider compromising with them on the view issue. (Chuong: Definitely. We also received the email from the planner regarding concerns expressed from the adjacent property. We can make that window smaller and place it higher which won ’t look down into the neighbor.) Sometimes you want the light to come in, not necessarily try to look out, and the five -foot high windows on the side elevations are a nice way to accomplish that and minimize the issues with neighbors. (Chuong: I’ll take that advice.) >It's not clear from your landscape plan if the existing trees that the neighbor to the right was concerned about are to be retained? (Chuong: Most of the trees will be retained. We're removing one tree for our proposed project. I believe the neighbor may have misunderstood that we will be removing all of the trees.) Would suggest updating the landscape plan to reflect the existing trees to remain. It would be clear for everyone reading the plans. (Chuong: Okay.) >Did you do a sun pattern study in terms of the shadows cast from the building? (Chuong: Yes, we did. We went there at different times. The adjacent property has solar panels facing the rear of the house to take advantage of the sun exposure. Even with our second story, we don't see that we'll have any shadow cast onto their existing solar panels. We have pictures taken and I can email them to the Planning Commission.) We can start with that to get a better understanding on how the sun pattern is cast against the neighbor's property. >In addition to the comments that were brought up about the windows, there seems to be a scattered pattern of windows on the left elevation. The windows don't seem to be aligned with each other or have any particular pattern. There's also a number of different sizes of windows. Can you take a look at that? (Chuong: Will definitely work a little bit more on it to see if we can come up with a more lined up window pattern.) Maybe a more regular pattern or size of windows would be helpful as well. (Chuong: Okay.) >On the front elevation, the second story has a nine -foot plate height and the area above the garage is the master bedroom, correct? (Chuong: Yes.) With the nine-foot plate height, the roof is built another two feet above. Is the ceiling height in that bedroom 11 feet? (Chuong: No. We're trying to design some different elevation heights on the front facade. The ceiling height is the same because we don't want to have a flat roof from the street. We're also putting a square box with no architectural detail to show the different elements there.) >On the front elevation it notes a glass guardrail. I read it as there will be horizontal elements, but it's a glass guardrail and you don't know what the tile will be yet? (Chuong: We don't know yet, I haven't picked one.) >On the right side elevation, understand that the upper floor is set back from the lower floor by 1’-2”. The upper floor is called out as smooth stucco. What's the finish for the lower floor? (Chuong: It's also an existing stucco.) So you are proposing to leave the existing stucco? (Chuong: For the lower floor, yes .) Would have expected to see some sort of resolution of the small roof that you described as a standing seam roof over that 1’-2” setback, but seeing no resolution of that roof edge, you need to look at that more closely. Don't know if you've given it any thought. (Chuong: We'll provide more details on the right side elevation.) >What has happened to the floor of the deck that's overhanging toward the front edge? Is it a drafting error? There's no thickness to it. On the front elevation, it shows as a fascia but it doesn't turn the corner and there's no structure holding that deck up. It would be acceptable to use a thick sheet metal, but you're not going to do that and that's not indicated on the front. There's a lack of resolution from the front facade to that right-hand facade that needs to be addressed. (Chuong: We're proposing a cantilever at the front of the second floor. It's my mistake showing the thickness of the cantilever that extends out.) >On the front elevation, the upper floor shows a smooth stucco, but on the other elevation it looks like horizontal siding. Is it flush with the smooth stucco or is there a separation between the two? (Chuong: Page 9City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes There is a separation.) What is the separation? (Chuong: The corner finish metal material.) It looks like continuous horizontal panel siding abutting the smooth stucco below. (Chuong: I will need to show more detail.) The left side elevation calls out “new hard trowel stucco”, so you're putting new stucco over there because you're adding to the second floor. Is that the reason you have new stucco on that side, but existing stucco on the other side? (Chuong: Yes.) >Can you confirm that the deck you have off the back is 310 square feet? (Chuong: It’s not really a deck, it's a second floor cantilever cover. It's about 6’ x 11’.) >In looking at the floor plan, it seems like there's plenty of space to align the upper floor with the lower floor in order to comply with the setback and the declining height envelope requirements. It looks like the interior space is generous and you would save yourself a lot of trouble. (Chuong: Are you saying we can align them up with the existing first level? That's what we originally proposed, to line up with the existing first floor. It was suggested by the planner that we're not meeting the required side setback. We have it flush with the bottom level.) I meant it the other way around, but realized that you are trying to save cost and not rebuild the right wall. The idea was to demolish the existing right wall so you can align the upper floor with the lower floor on the same plain and meet the declining height envelope. Public Comments: >Jill Shen: I'm the neighbor on Los Altos Drive and my backyard abuts the property. This is the first time we learned about this project. We’re interested in knowing what the proposed building height is. We heard something about solar panels, will they be added on top of the roof? I wonder if there can be a marker or something put up so we have an idea of how high the elevation is. I am concerned about my backyard privacy and also if it will impact our view to the bay. Chair Tse closed the public hearing. Commission Discussion/Direction: >It seems pretty typical that when we have a number of questions and concerns about a design, that this project might be a good candidate for review by a design review consultant. But based on comments of the neighbors, both in the hearing here and through email, I am concerned about whether we're going to be able to make the findings for the Hillside Area Construction Permit with potential view blockage of houses behind on Los Altos Drive. Not sure which direction to take because we recommend that they go to a design review consultant, they make changes to the design of the second story house, and then story poles are put up. It is clear that's going to be needed here. If we can't make the findings for a second story then all the work with the design review consultant makes no sense. Am interested to hear what other comments my fellow commissioners have. This is a good candidate for design review consultant in any case. >In agreement with my fellow commissioner. It seems like it ’s a waste of time and money, potentially, to put up story poles for something that needs as much design work as this project needs. The drawings don't inspire confidence. There’s a certain lack of order to the facades and there's a lack of legibility to the modernist architecture. You've got to understand how the parts and pieces relate to each other and right now this feels like a couple of boxes slamming together. Then you've got the potential view blockage problem. Not sure where to start on how to unravel this either. >Agree with my fellow commissioners. This project should go to a design review consultant. Maybe the consultant can look at what type of home will not impact the neighbor's view because that's going to be an important factor, rather than putting up story poles that are costly. The consultant should understand that there is a concern about the neighbor's view. >Agree that the story poles need to be installed first. In looking at what they're trying to accomplish with the square footage that they're trying to add, not sure the volume is going to change substantially. Agree there are some benefits from the design review consultant in helping with materials, transitions and really trying to help the modern architecture work. In looking at the elevations, there are materials that don't turn the corners and it feels like we're not trying to design the 3D box, but really just a modernist facade with a stucco box. It's a good idea to send this to the design review consultant, but would hate to waste that if Page 10City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes the story poles don't even allow for a second story solution like we saw on one of our previous projects . So, would suggest that the story poles be installed and at least give the neighbors the opportunity to see what an additional nine feet on top of the existing structure looks like. The photo from one house didn't necessarily suggest that it was going to block a view. Didn't see any information from the house directly behind, so we don't have a lot to go on. >Agree with what's been said by my fellow commissioners. However, the obligation and associated cost fall ultimately to the applicant and the property owner. It's up to them to decide how they want to move forward. If they want to continue to pursue a second floor addition as they've proposed, they just have to accept the consequences that if they work their way through the design review consulting and still decide that's the direction they want to pursue, the story poles are going to have to get erected and it can torpedo the application in terms of our ability to approve that type of an addition. Don't want to suggest a particular sequence other than, agreeing that the project should go through the design review consulting process . We have the five criteria for the design guidelines to consider. >In terms of the style, a modern home can fit in this area. There's several that are like this on that particular block. Don't see an issue there and with the parking pattern. If they want to have an attached garage, there's that pattern in the neighborhood. The problem that it is creating for them is they're putting the garage on the uphill side of the house. Many of the houses in that neighborhood have the garage tucked under, maybe half a level, on the downhill side of that front facade. Don't see that there's an issue with an attached garage meeting the parking pattern of the neighborhood. >Having difficulties with the style, mass and bulk criteria because as we've been saying, things are poorly resolved and poorly detailed. It doesn't seem to be a consistent or well thought out modern piece of architecture as we see elsewhere in the neighborhood. In terms of criteria four, interface with structures on adjacent properties, this is out of character with the pattern of the rest of the neighborhood. There appear to be two-story houses, but they're not. They are split level houses with a garage tucked on a lower floor with what essentially is a one -story house above. This one is an aberration relative to that pattern, which brings us to the Hillside Area Construction Permit which will make it difficult to approve. But we won't see that until the story poles are erected. If the applicant wants to avail themselves of that opportunity, they have to erect the story poles. In terms of criteria five, the landscaping, I can ’t tell if it's appropriate for the scale because the plans are inconsistent and poorly drawn. Agree with the idea of sending this to design review consulting and the fact that we're going to need to have story poles erected before this comes back for action. >Would ask the applicant look carefully at the submittal requirements, we need to have half size plans, these are 11’ by 17”. Hate to pick at that, but it's what made it difficult to try to discern first floor and second floor alignments when we're looking at plans that aren't to scale. >Quite obviously, story poles are going to be required. It's in the hillside area, it's a second story and there will be an impact on some views somewhere. Don't see why we shouldn't request the story poles. >On a practical note, in walking around the property I saw that it's in poor shape as reinforced by the owner. The first thing they should do is have an engineer come out and look at the structure to tell them if there's anything useful there. To my fellow commissioner ’s point, the garage would serve them better on the other side of the property and you can design around that. Would scrape this house and start all over, you're going to come up with a better design. You can accommodate the neighbors, work with the sight lines, and make something you'll be happier with. Your cost will be the same because the house that you've got right there is going to be destroyed by the time you try to re -engineer it and build a second story. >Agree with my fellow commissioners that we absolutely want to see story poles be erected, it will benefit the neighbors to see those put up. Also recommend that this project be referred to a design review consultant. Agree with what my fellow commissioner stated that on paper it can look like you're saving costs because you're aligning walls, keeping windows and maintaining finishes on a home. But in reality under construction, all of that will be torn apart. Then you'll be addressing other issues especially for an older home that hasn't been well maintained. It could cost you more than just starting from scratch, building more efficiently, coming up with a new plan that works well from a massing and layout perspective and in terms of spatial use. >Had the same exact comment about the scope of the project and whether it made more sense to start over or save the existing building. Page 11City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Commissioner Sargent made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Loftis, to refer the application to a design review consultant and directed that story poles be installed. >If in the revised design, let's say they avail themselves of the existing driveway and the house pushes over to one side or the other and beyond the volume of the existing house, but the ridge height still doesn't align, then the neighbors still are asking why aren't story poles being erected. Would we be prepared to act on that at that point? >Take to heart in terms of not necessarily requiring that story poles be erected per se. As a comment on the motion and maybe this is to the applicant as a caution when this comes back for action, if story poles aren't erected because you think you're not exceeding the existing height, the project might be continued because we might require story poles at that point. Don't think we should necessarily restrict ourselves to not requiring story poles in the future. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye:Sargent, Comaroto, Terrones, Tse, Gaul, Loftis, and Schmid7 - b.108 Channing Road, zoned R -1 - Application for Design Review for a new, two -story single family dwelling and detached garage. (Kevin Peng, property owner and applicant; Joe Ouyang, Yo Consulting Inc ., designer) (132 noticed) Staff Contact: Michelle Markiewicz 108 Channing Rd- Staff Report 108 Channing Rd - Attachments 108 Channing Rd - Plans Attachments: All Commissioners have visited the project site. There were no ex-parte communications to report. Planning Manager Hurin provided an overview of the staff report. Questions of staff: >There were no questions of staff. Chair Tse opened the public hearing. Kevin Peng, represented the applicant. Commission Questions/Comments: >Want to know more about the tile you are choosing and what you intend to do with the siding. (Peng: The tiles are mainly to cover the steps at the front and the back. We don ’t want to have exposed concrete as the finished product, so it's going to be some stone veneer.) Are you doing the wood siding with mitered corners? (Peng: Yes, that's correct.) >Is there a reason that you're not making the chimney on the right hand side of the building look like a traditional chimney? (Peng: We thought about having the chimney go all the way to the roof and extend above it. The second floor is set back from the first floor and we didn't want to have this gigantic feature on the side of the building.) You don't think you could make it more slender? If it's a zero clearance fireplace, it's not going to take up much room. As it's shown now, It looks like a water heater shed as opposed to a chimney. A chimney is a nice architecture feature. Being it is a direct vent fireplace, it doesn't have to come up to the second floor roof, it can pierce that first floor roof. If you would take a look at that, it would add architecturally to the design. (Peng: The other reason was the window at the second floor. The flue going past the first floor will be too close to that window.) You can vent it out the side or you can take it all the way to the roof. If you look at the manufacturer ’s specifications there are required Page 12City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes clearances to operable windows. Being so close to the front of the house, you might want to take a look at that, it will improve the design. (Peng: Okay.) >The existing site plan shows a 22-inch redwood tree to remain in the neighbor's yard. Have you spoken to the neighbor? That tree hangs over the property line quite a bit and if I'm not mistaken, it would be up against your house so you would have to do some pruning there. Wondering what kind of damage a new foundation is going to do to that tree because you're going to be five feet off the property line. It's a really big tree. Don't think redwood trees belong in residential neighborhoods, but it's not your tree, so would encourage you to work with the neighbor on what you're doing with that tree because it may impact them . (Peng: Sure, yes.) >You've shown removing a couple of large trees in the back of the property. Have you applied for a tree removal permit for that? (Peng: We worked with the arborist and he told us that those two trees are palm trees and that they are not protected trees. We did not need permits to remove them.) They're just marked as a 38” tree and a 36” tree. Are they both palm trees? (Peng: Correct, yes.) >Are the front porch columns going to be wood columns? (Peng: Those will be fiberglass.) >If you revisit the chimney concept, you can do an asymmetrical chimney with a shoulder on the right hand side and it might allow you to center that chimney as it comes up between the two windows above. It wouldn't necessarily have to go all the way above the higher roof. >Your elevations indicate “simulated divided light, typical for all windows .” Have you looked at window manufacturers at this point and do you know who you're going with? (Peng: We haven't decided which manufacturer yet.) Are you familiar with the simulated true divided light window detail that we typically encourage? (Peng: Yes.) Interior and exterior grids, as well as a dividing bar between the double glazing? (Peng: We have seen the samples, yes.) Public Comments: >There were no public comments. Chair Tse closed the public hearing. Commission Discussion/Direction: >The tile selection is going to be really important to the success of that front elevation. We've seen a few in recent hearings that didn't work very well. Would encourage you to make that choice before coming back, so we can get guidance on that. >Concerned with the plate height on the front elevation, having it at nine feet and having the seven foot tall door is creating a high forehead there that would be better served if that scale came down. That would even it out a little bit. Right now that whole door composition looks out of scale, like the door is too small for such a large area. >The redwood tree is something that has to be resolved because that tree comes well over the existing house now. It is where the second floor pop out is located on the right side, so those tree limbs are going to be in your windows and it is a little concerning. >Agree with my fellow commissioner regarding the front porch. The columns are overly tall. It looks like it's wanting to be on a plantation that ’s set on a lot of acreage. It's creating a high forehead above those windows and doors along the porch that looks fairly unnatural and out of scale. Can't tell how tall the front doors are because these are not half size drawings, they are 11” x 17”. Please submit half size drawings when you come back for action. >Would agree with my fellow commissioners and would like to see that chimney addressed a little bit more architecturally to make it a more cohesive design. Commissioner Loftis made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Comaroto, to place the item on the Regular Action Calendar when the application has been revised as directed. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye:Sargent, Comaroto, Terrones, Tse, Gaul, Loftis, and Schmid7 - Page 13City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes c.619-625 California Drive, zoned C-2 (North California Drive Commercial District) - Application for Environmental Review and Amendment to Commercial Design Review, Conditional Use Permit for building height and Condominium Permit for construction of a new five-story, 44-Unit live/work development. (Ian Birchall, Ian Birchall and Associates, applicant and architect; Ed 1005 BM LLC, property owner) (229 noticed) Staff Contact: Ruben Hurin 619-625 California Dr - Staff Report 619-625 California Dr - Attachments 619-625 California Dr - Plans Attachments: All Commissioners have visited the project site. There were no ex-parte communications to report. Planning Manager Hurin provided an overview of the staff report. Questions of staff: >Can you walk us through the consequences of calling this live /work? How is that different than calling it condominiums or apartments? (Hurin: Similar to the previously approved project at this site, as well as the recently approved project at the other end of this block, you can definitely see characteristics of a residential condominium. They do have an area designated within each of the units for work area. The city doesn't have specific requirements for live /work spaces. Given the circumstances with COVID -19 and persons working from home, they've designed a project here that lends itself more to residents that would be working from home or running a business from their own home as opposed to a more traditional live/work project. This is more geared to high-tech or professionals which will be living in these units.) >Can you remind me about 601 California Drive? Does that project extend across all of the remaining properties in that block besides this one or will there be one building to remain in between? (Hurin: There will be one building remaining in between. You have the former gas station site and the existing building, which is not part of these two projects.) >The changes to the already approved project, were they driven by changes in desires of the applicant or was there a change in the zoning code that allows them to do something now that they weren't able to do when they first applied? (Hurin: These changes would be based only upon the applicant's desire to make these changes. There were no changes to the zoning code in the meantime.) Chair Tse opened the public hearing. Ian Birchall, represented the applicant. Commission Questions/Comments: >You're changing from 26 units to 44 units. Can you tell me what the unit mix was before versus what it is now? (Birchall: I can't tell you exactly, I'll be direct about that. So I'm going to answer the implied question. We have reduced all units to one -bedroom units and increased the number of units to a more efficient planning and still provided generous living, dining and work areas.) So all 44 units are one-bedroom units? (Birchall: There are two on the top floor that have a den associated with the live /work area, so that can become a private office, it's not a bedroom. We haven't put a closet in it. It's a den, so there are larger units on the top floor.) So within a very similar volume, the changes mainly are because the number of bedrooms have been reduced, but you are increasing number of units. >In looking at the building section and the building height, did you change the floor -to-floor heights to make them rationale and reasonable and that's why you've been able to fit the additional floor in? The first floor was over 16 feet and now you have it down 13 feet because it's more communal spaces as opposed to hard retail, right? (Birchall: Yes. Also by reducing the size of the units, we feel it's possible to reduce the ceiling height down to nine feet. So everything is in a better scale proportion.) Looking at the upper Page 14City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes floors, you had 11’-8” and 12' and now you have 9-foot ceilings. So it kept the volume at one foot taller than it was before overall, but increased the number of units by 18. (Birchall: That's correct.) >Since you're the same architect and it's the same owner, would it be possible when this comes back to action for you to do a montage to show that block now so we can see the two projects together? Understand there will be a gap in between, but could you do that for us so we can see that when it comes back? (Birchall: Absolutely. That's a very good suggestion. We'll be happy to do that.) >The first time around, we had a long discussion about the first floor and it seemed like everyone agreed we should have some retail to tie the downtown with the smaller shops further up on California Drive. Can you tell me why you're eliminating the retail? (Birchall: It's based on economics, we just don't want to have empty uses on the first floor. They're likely to stay there forever. My client has done pretty extensive research for his other project that we were the architect for and he hasn't received any interest at all from any possible tenant. At one point, we had the ground floor, north of that corridor on the drawing, as a potential retail space and we were just very unhappy with the idea that it's going to sit there empty. So we decided to design something that could be adapted in the future to create a small pocket retail that might be attractive to a tenant as the street begins to provide a need for that kind of retail. We're talking about adding two buildings that will give us close to 70 units, it could be between 100 to 140 people living on this block and they may generate some need for that kind of retail use.) >Struggling with how we learn to apply these ideas of live /work to the sites being developed. Help me understand how the work share and co -working space is going to work for 44 people? In looking at the manager's office being half the size, how do you see that being used? (Birchall: Have you visited any work/share spaces?) Not for this type of work. The only ones I have done are metal shops and that type of thing. (Birchall: Fair enough. We don't expect everybody to be using this work share space. We think maybe somebody who prefers to have a small work area in their live /work unit and wants to have an area down here where they can bring people off the street and have a meeting, they would rent it out on a work bench basis or per square feet basis. This is about supporting their work use in their unit and providing space that they can't provide or don't want to provide within their work space, within their live /work unit.) So you would have to call ahead to rent or reserve that work share area or is that open to use? (Birchall: I’m not capable of answering these questions. This is more about how the project sponsor will work something out here. That’s why we have a manager's office and how it gets rented. There will be examples on the market by the time we build a project and they'll provide some examples and some opportunities.) >One of the long involved discussions we had on this project some time back had to do with parking and traffic at this really congested intersection. Has any additional work been done to understand what ten additional parking spaces will do to this intersection? (Birchall: Not to my knowledge. That will be part of the environmental review.) That begs the question, we're looking at an amendment to an already approved project. But having ten parking places and ten cars at this intersection would seem that it requires some additional environmental work, but wouldn't have expected that to happen in an amendment. So am a little confused. (Hurin: So this is being brought forward to you as a design review study item. Before it comes back, there will have to be an addendum prepared to the environmental document, with one of the items to be looked at is the traffic impacts from the additional units being proposed here.) >When they do that traffic study, are they going to base it on what's currently going on? We have COVID-19, so you don't have school in session. There are other impacts now that are different than when they do the traffic study in a normal kind of world that we used to live in. (Hurin: Don't know the exact details, but the traffic engineers are now applying a certain factor to accommodate for that change in traffic patterns. They are aware of that and it will be factored into the review.) >At that fifth floor plan where there are two units with a den space, it looks like there are closets for those two dens. Would that theoretically make these two -bedroom units? (Birchall: I see what you're saying. First of all, I owe you an apology because I was not aware we had kept those closets in there. The definition of a bedroom doesn't require there to be a closet, and if it is a problem for approval of the units being one-bedroom units, then we'll remove the closet. But the definition of a bedroom does not require it to have a closet. It can have a piece of furniture, like a wardrobe, but the definition I'm talking about is under the California Building Code and Housing Code. If it's a problem here, we can delete that. Thank you for catching that. I apologize for my error.) No problem. >In comparison to your previously approved design at the corner of Oak Grove Avenue and California Drive, there's an open space area with additional benches for people to rest or to enjoy the outdoor space Page 15City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes and it seems to have been reduced in size, but the lobby looks fairly large. Is there any reason or thinking behind that rearrangement of space allocation? (Birchall: We felt the lobby needed to have more of a sense of space appropriate for a live /work where you've got guests and potential clients visiting. There might be a need to put a minor reception desk or something like that. As for the landscape area, we felt that this design was much more open and welcoming off the sidewalk. The prior design had concrete planters and it created a barrier on the corner, so we consciously opened this up to the corner.) Did like seeing the additional seating at that corner. (Birchall: We have seating outside in this landscaped area and it's on the rendering.) Seeing there was only one bench, noticed there were multiple benches in the original design. >Along the lines of amenities and useful space, was there any consideration for a barbecue at the back or anywhere for outdoor use and enjoyment in that rear corner? (Birchall: Yes. There has been talk about that. That's under development to be honest with you. We have not focused a lot of time on that . We did have a barbecue in the prior design and there are issues with having barbecues in buildings. If they're not managed with an on -site manager, the use of a barbecue can be really messy. So sometimes on our rental properties where there's an on -site manager, it's a lot easier to put a barbecue into the landscape or into a courtyard. This is under development so we'll give more thought to that.) >There is a workout gym in the other building on the opposite corner, so will the residents of this building be able to go next door? (Birchall: Yes, there will be some cross usage of the common spaces by both buildings. So residents of this building will have access to the gym in the other building and they will have access to the work space here if necessary.) >The bike storage looks like it stores four bikes or that's what was noted on the plans. Do you feel that's sufficient? (Birchall: Yes, that’s something we can work on if it's necessary. The city doesn't have quite the same stringent standards that San Francisco does. We can provide more if it's mandated or recommended.) >On your materials board there was a small glass tile, wasn ’t sure where that's being applied. (Birchall: That's being applied to the columns that are exposed outside the main entrance. So the white columns that you saw on the renderings are the glass tile. We felt there's a need to get some light from the column where you can see fractions of light reflecting and refracting from the glass, and it would give the column a much lighter feel. That was the reasoning behind that choice.) Did notice the columns were reflective in your renderings. (Birchall: Yes, that's the glass.) >On the last building, we did talk at length about a delivery and drop -off area. With the increase in the number of units and people living and working here, what would be the plan for dropping off? Seeing a bus stop and a red zone, is there any thought to that? (Birchall: That will become part of the development of the design and the transportation study as we go forward. We figured the side street to be the drop off because we have a large curb cut for pick -up and drop-off. That's not something I've got any ready answer for you right now.) Don't see anything on the Oak Grove Avenue side. (Birchall: No, we have not selected an area or looked at that yet, it's something we need to get into.) Public Comments: >Comment via email from Jennifer Pfaff: I am wondering if the applicant can consider adding some additional street trees. This project looks like runs about 120’ wide and nearly that deep, but there are only two street trees on California Drive, and one, on Oak Grove. I’m referring to public street trees, if I ’m not mistaken. California Drive is very wide, and on that west side, poorly landscaped. Can you possibly address? Thanks for your consideration. Chair Tse closed the public hearing. Commission Discussion/Direction: >Had a similar comment as Jennifer Pfaff. There's an opportunity for an additional tree along California Drive and a possible one along Oak Grove Avenue, if you can revisit that. >I am excited about the revisions being presented. We kind of massaged and wrestled with the previous design and it ended up getting watered down in terms of the final finished product. What’s Page 16City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes proposed now is going to harmonize nicely with what we approved down the block; would like to see that as a montage of the projects together. >On the ground floor, we have to consider the changing face of retail and agree with the applicant. If we force the issue in terms of the possible retail space on that ground floor, particularly along California Drive where it's quite a ways from the draw or the anchorage of Burlingame Avenue, we could end up with more vacancies, and we're being struck with how much e -commerce we have. Unfortunately, there aren't a larger number of people walking along the streets to get shoppers. Excited about the proposition with this live/work concept, you have these additional spaces on the ground floor and the larger one that they're calling the work share or co -working space that can be a pop -up for one of the businesses, or large group event for one of the businesses, or an exhibit for something that they might want to show. The conference space could be for client groups to meet with somebody who is running a business out of their live /work unit above. That’s going to actually work to liven the street just as much as any retail would. You have the additional advantage of ownership from the people that are using those spaces. So all in all, excited about the idea of getting these additional living units with only an additional one foot of overall height, with generally the same mass and bulk as the project we had before, and architecture that harmonizes better with what we’ve approved down the block. Would like to see it move into the environmental study and see how it unfolds as it comes back for action. >Agree with my fellow commissioner, am also excited. The architecture is an improvement. A little bit concerned to look at the environmental issues, particularly the traffic. Really looking forward to see a composite drawing. Worried a little bit about too much of a good thing. Harmonizing is one thing and too much of a good thing is another. This is an improvement on the previous project. >Like the changes, but am concerned about the traffic impact. That's something we looked at quite closely the first time we looked at this and got quite a bit of feedback from the neighborhood about it. A revised traffic study would be helpful and it will be interesting to see a shadow study in the environmental impact report, how that additional floor is going to impact that three -story apartment building or condo building right behind the project on Oak Grove Avenue. >Like this project too. Echoing my fellow commissioner ’s comment about the retail, we are seeing a change in retail and having retail down there would be dead. Using it this way and encouraging this to be more work/live because the one -bedrooms encourage that. It's not a family place. It's a work place and having these amenities is a good thing. Like the direction of the project. Am concerned about the traffic as well, would encourage you to look at Adeline Drive and El Camino Real because there's an apartment building on the corner. It has an entrance and an exit on the corner and it's the main thoroughfare to a number of schools, so equally a lot of traffic there but we can make it work. That doesn't have to be a killer to this corner here. >Struggling with this a little bit more than the rest of my fellow commissioners. We talked about this on the other project down the block. What's the definition of a live /work space? These units look like they're more about living than about working. The work space has been reduced and being done so by increasing a common area where more people can work. But if you're talking about 44 businesses, is that enough space down there with the conference room and the common work area? Maybe some research needs to be done on that. It seems that we're jamming a lot more people into the same amount of space. Besides the traffic impact, also concerned about the deliveries, the drop -offs and pick-ups, and where the clients are going to park if they're going to these businesses. It seems like we're impacting this area and not sure it's in a good way. We asked the applicant if they would be interested in making more of the common area if that works, or if they can come up with an argument that this would be enough. Just don ’t know at this point. >Agree with my fellow commissioners that this is an improvement to the originally proposed project. It's great to see additional units come on the market. The material palate looks nice and it's complimentary with the one down the street. It's interesting to see the whole street as it's developed in an overall rendering. Recalling a lot of discussion as well about traffic coming in and out of that parking garage and that we also have rideshare needs. We will see in the next go around when we see the report on traffic and its implications in the area. In your rendering, you have a lot of red zones drawn, don't see where one would pickup an Uber or Lyft ride without having to go further down into the residential area. >Do appreciate that the building is only about a foot taller and you were able to get so many more units in within this general massing of a building, so congratulations on that. Would like to see this move forward to the next stages. Page 17City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020 November 9, 2020Planning Commission Meeting Minutes There is no motion for this item. The application will return for action once the environmental review has been completed. 10. COMMISSIONER’S REPORTS There were no Commissioners Reports. 11. DIRECTOR REPORTS On November 2, 2020, the City Council adopted the ordinance modifying construction hours. The ordinance amends the hours of construction in the Bayfront Commercial, Innovation Industrial and Rollins Road Mixed Use areas to allow construction to begin at 7:00 a.m. instead of 8:00 a.m. on weekdays. However, use of tools such as chainsaws, jack hammers, pile drivers and impact wrenches would be prohibited during that first hour unless approved by the chief building official. It also allows the building official to grant extended hours for work such as large concrete pourers. The City Council also approved the proposed project at 1766 El Camino Real, which includes the ordinance that amends the office and health service parking ratio for that zoning district from 1:300 from 1:400. The Council also reviewed an introduction of a short -term rental ordinance, which would require collection of a transient occupancy tax and registration with the City. Lastly, Scott Spansail was appointed as Interim City Attorney. a.624 Lexington Way, zoned R -1 - FYI for review of revisions requested by the Planning Commission to a previously approved Design Review project. 624 Lexington Way - Memorandum 624 Lexington Way - Attachments 624 Lexington Way - Plans Attachments: Accepted. 12. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:38 p.m. An action by the Planning Commission is appealable to the City Council within 10 days of the Planning Commission's action on November 9, 2020. If the Planning Commission's action has not been appealed or called up for review by the Council by 5:00 p.m. on November 19, 2020, the action becomes final. In order to be effective, appeals must be in writing to the City Clerk and must be accompanied by an appeal fee of $1,075.00, which includes noticing costs. Page 18City of Burlingame Printed on 12/15/2020