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CITY OF BURLINGAME
CITY COI'NCIL/PI,ANNING COMUISSION STUDY MEETING
saturday, April 25, L992, 8.30 a.m.
Hyatt Regency 9th Floor
Mayor Frank Pagliaro convened the joint study session of the
Burlingame City council and Planning conmission on the above date
in the 9th floor neeting area of the Hyatt Regency hotel at 9:07
a.m.
PRESENT: COTJNCILMEMBERS HARRISON, KNIGHT, LEIIIBI , OIMAHONY, PAGLIARO
DEAL, ELLIS, GALLIGAN, GRA}IAM,PLANNING COMMISSIONERS PR
JACOBS, KELLY,
ESENT:
MINK
COLEMAN,
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STAFF PRESENT: ARGYRES,KIRKUP, MONROE
ES PROCEDURE
Mayor Pagliaro reviewed the agenda and suggested that we begin
with second story rear setbacks, floor area ratio and city wide
view protection discussions. City planner reviewed the staff
material presented on rear setbacks. She noted that our current
setbacks T^rere established in 1941 and reviewed three possibfe
aLternatives for addressj.ng a number of complaints we have
recently recej-ved. Mayor Paqliaro stated that he would like to
see if we could address the ttchinese $rallrr problem that we have
seen on properties such as those to the rear at 1649 coronado
way. Councilman Lenbi thought that situation was a combinati.on
of the slope of the lot with the house to the rear beinq higher,the shallow depth of the 100' Iot and the fact that the neighbor
cut a1I bushes and protective shrubbery between the properties.
He thought that some type of variable setback for a second story
based on the depth of the rear yard might be appropriate.
Commissioner Jacobs thought that we should be conditioningapplications to retain inportant trees and vegetation to soften
the impact of the new structures. Councilwoman orMahony stated
that the Beautification Commission wouLd be proposing, in the
near future, an ordinance to address trees on private property.
Council!'roman Knight favored the third alternative !,rhich qroul.d be
a variable second story setback to encourage irregularity at the
second floor and break up long flat plains parallel to rearproperty lines and still retain some cost reduction in using sornefirst floor foundations. she thought this would benefit rnany
areas with small lots such as the Ray Park area.
Councilman Lembi was concerned that we were adding more expenseto the cost of rernodels with some of the alternatives. Coromis-
sioners Jacobs questioned why lre just dontt lower the floor arearatio. councilwoman otMahony indicated she was not in favor of afloor area ratio because it does not address the placenent of and
need to address clever tricks which catch the eye. Commissioner
DeaI noted that other items such as drainage requirements, sewer
tests, sidewalk repair, and building code requirenents also addto the cost of additions. Commissioner El1is indicated that we
could have the same problem at the rear of the house $/ith fAR.
Comrnissioner Deal used the example of the problems of certain
areas of San Mateo where they have FARS, but the additions
accentuate mass and bulk rather than reduce it.
Councilrnan Harrison favored the second alternative which would beto have the second story setback based on the depth of the rearyard. Councilman Lenbi agreed. Commissioner calligan thought it
was irnportant to look at the front of the house; he felt thevariable rear setback would give the architect positive incentiveto break up the lines of the rear wall.
Mayor Pagliaro agreed that the issue is not just bulk, but we
need the variation. He suggested that sorne possible cornbination
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of alternative two and three might be appropriate. coromissioner
Ke1ly agreed with alternative three but suggested that we need to
Iook at landscaping to provide some type of screening. Conmis-
sioner Mink thought alternative three rrras more powerful than theothers. After additional discussion, Mayor directed staff to
work on the concept of sone combination of alternative two which
would j.ncrease second story setbacks based on the depth of therear yard and alternative three to provide some type of incentivefor variation in the second floor to break up vertical plains ofrear wal1s. Staff lrould return to the planning conmission with
proposals for additional review.
Mayor Pagliaro felt that hre needed to address floor area ratio on
new homes and not on remodels. city Planner briefly reviewed thestaff material on floor area ratio and indicated there were
issues of equity based on size of lots and that FAR does not
address where the square footage is placed. Cornmissioner Jacobsstated that she likes the appearance of the additions she has
seen in Palo Alto which uses floor area ratio. councilnan
Harrison stated that he was also concerned with homes on new lots
and thought the example of the current three Lots avoiding thedeclining height regulations and building to the rnaximurn indicat-
ed a problem. Councilwoman Knight felt that the problen was more
than just new hones and that she would like to Iook at FAR foradditions as well.
councilman Harrison thought that the revision to the rear set-
backs with sorne variation with some required additional vegreta-tion and landscaping may solve the problem. Councilwoman
OrMahony stated she was against getting too restrictive onadditions because it lirnits new young farnilies. She does favoradditional landscaping requirenents. Mayor Pagliaro stated the
new houses are not being buiJ.t for the young family narket.
Commissioner Grahan thought that the current rules which alloq, as
tnuch as a 31750 square foot house on a 51000 square foot lot weretoo permj-ssive. She favors FAR or some conbination of reductionof l"ot coverage and FAR. she cited the example on our tour ofthe houses on colunbus and Hale, noting they did not fit
Burlinqame.
Councilman Lernbi questioned whether vre are receiving complaj.nts
about pre or post daylight plane construction. Cornmissioner Minkstated we would need some definitions concerning s/hat is a
remodeled house because some of the current hones being rebuiltare really \^rhole new houses. Councilwoman Knight stated that shefelt there were problems with existing codes that allo!,red the
houses at 1330 CastiLl-o and 1001 Cabril1o, both built withbuilding permits and no other review. Commissioner calliganthought that mass alone was not the probLem, but that separation
betv/een house, side setbacks, are a major consideration. He feltwith the new construction, side setbacks are snaIIer, chinneys
can encroach and the garages are no longer separate fron thehouse; so it appears that the construction is lot line to 1otline. He suggested that there be sone threshold nunbers on sizeof house such as between 3,500 and 4,000 square feet, whereplanning commission review would be required. He felt that, at
some point, big houses begin to look nore like hotels.
Conrnissioner Kelly indicated we need to be careful that hrith FAR
we do not increase the tirne for plan check. Commissioner Deal
agreed that we need to revier^r al,I large houses, Mayor pagliaro
stated that for 1egal reasons hre r,rould need certain criteria forreview of large houses.
After additional discussion, Mayor Pagliaro directed that staffand planning cornmissj,on look at developing a regulation for floorarea ratio for new houses including a definition of ner^, house andestablishing a linitation before additions can be made to newhouses. In addition, consider developing criteria for reviewingadditions which create rrlargert houses.
2. FLOOR AREA RATIO
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3. CITY WTDE VTEW PROTECTION
counciLnan Lembi described the problem he sa!, in sloping areas
where a trslotr view exists over a one story house between twoexisting trdo story houses. Councilnan Harrison thought thatrather than extending the hillside area construction overlay
area, we needed some simple measurable way to identify a projectthat would cause loss of such a view. councilsronan orMahony feLtthat she did not hrant to open this Pandorars box. It was a realquestion of what is measurabl,e and what is a view. such itens astrees blocking views are also a real problem. Cornrnissioner
crahan agreed what is a view: Is it trees, blue sky? Commis-sioner Mink thought the city was being very j-nconsistent in its
approach on one hand trying to protect views, and on the other
hand pruning city trees to grow ta1Ier and effectively block
views.
After additional dj-scussion, no action was taken on this itern.
4. EXTERTOR LIGHTING TN STNGLE FAMTLY RESIDENTTAL AREAS
Commissioner Galligan suggested that we use a nuisance approachto this problem sj-rnilar to San Mateo, rather than trying torequire more regul-ations. City Attorney noted that there was aproblen between definingr public versus private nuisance. Thecity does not currently participate in the county rnediation
program which could be an assistance in these types of com-plaints. Commissioner Kelly noted that in the past couple ofyears, we have seen more of these types of problens which couldbe resolved if the neiqhbors would sit down and talk to eachother. Councilwornan Knight noted that we provide some protectionto residential areas from cornmercial area lighting such as cardeaLers, but hre have no protection between residential proper-ties.
After additional discussion, the Mayor directed that the councilreview the current urgency ordinance in Septernber and that thecity obtain information on joining the current county widemediation service.
After additional discussion, it was decided that if the planning
comnissi-on wishes to discuss the issue of transitional zonesbetlreen cornrnercial and single family uses further that it shouldforward i-ts comments to council.
6. USES IN THE M-1 (LIGHT TNDUSTRTAL) DISTRICT
Planner noted that lre are currently processing about 1.4itional use permits per month in the t1-1 zone and a s-yeary shows that we have been approving 938. She suggested thatreflects a possible change in land use policy, and rrre mayto re-evaluate the policy and look at changing some of theitional uses to perrnit. She also thought that hre needed toew our land use policy in the M-1 area since we are no longer
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5. TRANSTTION AREAS
Councih'ronan Knight indicated that she did not favor addressingthis issue at this time because of conflicting state requirenentsfor increased density versus residential requests which wouldrequire down zonj.ng. Conrnissioner E11is did not feel this $ras abig issue at this tine and that you need to have transition areasin some places. cenerally, the cities transition areas areIogical . Comrnissioner Deal- felt that there were parking problems
i.n sorne of our transition zones. Comrnissioner Gal1igan agreedand thought that the city parking requirenents for nultiple unitsare 1o!, compared to neighboring cities. He also felt there was aproblen with required guest parking. He felt we should be noreflexible in assigning parking in condoninium projects, reducingthe number of spaces assigned to a specific unit to one andIeaving the rest of the required parking for anyone, includingquests, to use.
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as involved in heavy manufacturing and distribution activities.Traffic and parking concerns will continue to be a major problenin the district which need to be addressed. Councilwonan Knight
noted that in attendinq the Traffic Safety Parking Cornrnission
meetings she had become aware that there are problems with on-street truck parking in areas where there are also offices. She
thought we would need to be very careful concerning allowingretail uses in this area because of the traffic and parking
concerns .
Councilman Harrison noted that he has been rneeting r^rith theOffice Council and they are also revielring this issue. He indi-cated that they will be coming forward lrith proposal on thismatter in the near future. He suggested that staff neet with theOffice Council representatives to consider this. Comrnissioner
Mink indicated that historically we have required a great manyconditional uses in the M-1 area because r^re were unsure of the
developrnent pattern. Now that the pattern is set, perhaps we
should review our perrnitted versus conditional uses. Councilwon-
an O'Mahony stated that she favors allowing retail sales in thisarea to generate sales tax.
At approximately 11:09 a.n., a nunber of council and commission-ers noted a slight earthquake.
FROI,I THE FLOOR
Mayor Pagliaro asked for
none .
ADJOURNMENT
The rneeting was adj ourned
any comnents fron the floor; there were
at 11:10 a.m
dith A. Malfattiity Clerk