HomeMy WebLinkAboutMin - TSP - 1977.01.13TRAFFTC, SAIETY & PARKING COMMISSION
January 13, L97?
CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting
held on January 13,
8:00 p.m.
of the Traffic,
1977 i called to
Parking Commission was
Chairman Podesta at
Safety &
order by
ROLL CALL
/$csent:
Others
Present: Commissioners craham, podesta, Subbotin, Sulger.
Commissioners Aliamus, Constantino, Gundersen, aII excused.
Present: Director of publi.c Works, Ralph E. KirkupTraffic Engineer llhomas E. I{ooreTraffic Director ,Jame s D. O'Brien
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Subbotin Ied the Pledge of Allegiance to the F1a9.
MlNUTES
Minutes of the meeting of December 9
CURRENT BUSINESS
1976 were accepted.
Southern Pacifie Up ]"ng .Mr. Ralph Kirkup, Director of public
works, was present to di-scuss the southern pacific upgrading project.He referred to tite EIR being prepared by DeLeu$r, Cather & Company,and that a meeting is being planned by city staff to include thecommunity in an effort to obtain oplnions and suggestions.
The Consultants have indicated alternatives to be:crossing the way it is. 2. Take the railroad up.road down; ot, 4. Do something in between. Eithertake raiLroad one-half up or one-half down. He staintention of changing Broadway by installation of ait is too destructive to the commerci.al area.
t. Leave the
3. Take the rail-
lor.re r Broadway ited there is no
n overpass because
rad
Tentatively, the meeting date would be January 26, L977, includingthis commission- Drafting of, the rnpact Report is to be compretedthe week of I'larch 25, L977. The public hearing held before the'Pranning commission is scheduled for their meeting of April rs, 1977.rt wirl be presented to city council for their deeision of an altern-ative. At the same time an application will be sent to the puc.
Presently, the City is thi.rteen on the priority list. With theprojects that have dropped out before us, and those that have beenfunded, the City anticipates being in fifth or sixth place.
Traffic, safety & Parking Comm.--2 January L3, L977
The primary estimate included in the application stands at $4,80O,000.
?he State funds pay eighty per cent, the railroad, ten per cent, and
the City, ten per cent, or $480,000. There are City Gas Tax funds
and supplementary funds to be applied for. Ihere seems to be no problem
in funding the proj ect.
T'lxe meeting mentioned previously is scheduled to be held ats the City
HaIl. Commissioner Subbotin suggested the Beautification Commj.ssion
be included for aesthetics, beautification and social impact, as welL
as the Park and Recreation Commission. He suggested the meeting be
conclucted in an effort to obtain items for consideration iather than
controversial subjects. It would be well to have netrsPaPer coverage.
Any suggestions from the_ audience should be written and presented to
the consultants for their future consideration. Mr. Kirkup stated
that the Planning Commission did not wish to participate in this meet-
ing as they will be taking testimony in April . Beautification and
Park and Recreation Commissions could participate. The meeting is
just for information gathering.
. Mr. Kirkup agreed that he could chair the meeting; introduce the people
and topics. Staf+ is counting heavily on the nevrsPapers for publicity,
and he expressed appreciation for the suggestions offered. Nortbpark
Apartments wilt be included in notification because they are definitely
going to be affected.
Commissioner Subbotin asked if
the tvro stations and provide a
he did not think they would.
the railroad would consider elirninating
single one, and Mr. Kirkup replied that
Commissioner Subbotin identified three or four categories of the EIR
and related Park and Recreation and the Beautification. commissions with
visual aestheticsi the Traffic, Safety & Parking Commission with each
of the areas in their purview; and the Planning commission would address
social impact, land use or requirements, and noise and air qualities.
There are definite areas that each group would study.
Commissioner subbotin asked if it might improve the crossing at Broadway
if th9 station were moved? Commissioner sulger referred to previous
discussion about one station at Oak Grove Avenue and clos the stations
at Broadway and Burlingame Avenues.
I\tr. Kirkup feels this would raise the magnitude of the study and would
rather not have it included in this study at this time. He then asked
about the date for the meeting and Mr. Subbotjn suggested that the
Commissioner Graham suggested it might be we}l to have Commissioners
express their thoughts. It might generate more resPonse frcrn the
public. Commissioner Subbotin agreed that this was good strategy.
Traffic, Safety & Parking Comm.--3
Commissioners would make a
meeting is scheduled. Mr.
.Tanuary 13, L977
special effort to be present rrhenever the
Kirkup will send notices.
Parkinq structure. Commissioner Subbotin asked Mr. Kirkup if he
would care to address the status of the parking structure? Mr. Kirkup
replied that as he understands the action taken at the City Council
Study Meeting, a feasibility study on the Conrad 6( Associates plan will
not be made; that it will be on the City Council agenda for their meet-
ing January 17, L977 i and that they will adopt the Carolan Avenue site.
Mr. Kirkup said he understood that the Post Office is not intending to
move soon and that the timing is off. Conrad & Associates included in
their study consideration of the Post Office property and the revenue
that would come from parking and retail shops. The figures are not
available yet. It would be premature to do that study until the Post
Office property is available.
Traffic control devices on O1d Ba shore Hi hwa Mr.
unt i1
Moore
later
expl ain ed
this year.
'Loading Zone criteria. Commissioner crahamr s concern regarding the
problem of carrying heavy Tv sets to and from custoners' automobiles
continues. Often, parking is only available at some distance. He
asked about a green zone in front of his store to see if it would be
beneficial.
they could not include this area in their study
Mr. Moore stated that short-term parkers
store for an errand takinq less than the
green zones at the corners of the block.
would use it to
twenty minutes.
run into a
Ihere are
Commissioner Subbotin read the following re qu iltrEnt s from The Traffic
Engineering Handbook, published in 1965, designating "Special vrarrants
to guide the establishment of curb loading zones": I. That there is no
alley or off-street space available for loading use. 2. No curb load-
ing space within I00 feet of proposed zone without crossing a street or
a1Iey except in areas of concentrated activity. 3. A mlnimum of ten
to fifteen stops per day for piek-up and/or delivery per business or
combination of businesses proposed to use the zone. 4. The weight,
quantity and time requirements of loads handled.
Chairman Podesta asked the
a request for a green zone?
red to this Commission for
decision.
City with
be refer-their
procedure if a citizen came to the
Mr. Kirkup replied tirat it would
recomrnendation to City Council for
Commissioner Graham asked if the planter in front of Sj.rnpson's Clothiers
might be designated as a ye1low loading zone. It is longer than the
others and does not extend out into the street as far.
January L3, L97?
In response to an inquiry, Sergeant O'Brien stated he believed the
Department of Public works would be responsible for install-ation ofthe loading zone. There are three, twenty-four minute zones in frontof the cleaners on Howard Avenue. He called attention to the fact thatit would be taking an hour zone and making it twenty-four minutes, andit would be available for anyone who wished to use it unless you puta sign on it to indicate it is for the sole purpose of unloading and
loading TV sets.
Commissioner Graham spoke of the inconveniencethat his wife and he carry sets for them.
to the customer and
When asked about a loading zone in front of the planter, Sergeant O,Brienstated there are crosswalks on each side. A car parked at the loading
zone would block visibility of the crosswalk; they would have to unload
on the street side or in the back. IIe also mentioned there are five
loading zones servicing Burlingame Avenue. It was thereafter requested
that this item be dropped from the aqenda.
Howard Avenue survey (includes consideration of traffic signal at Lorton
Avenue and Entrance to Safeway parking lot). l4r. Ivloore reported computerinformation regarding the intersection of l,orton and Howard Avenues.
There were nine accidents in eleven entire months, with only one avoidable
by the installation of a signal . There was one injury last year, oneinjury the previous year and in L974, one injury.
At this time it is difficult to justify a signal. Mr. Moore understands
the problem is at peak hours and the delay resulting from the volume of
traffic. Commissioner Subbotin asked if the intersection was rated any
more critical than others in the cotnmunity and Mr. I'1oore answered tirat
there others more critical . O1d Bayshore Highway wouLd be a good example.
Traffic, Safety & Parking Comn.--4
Commissioner Sulger asked about using the back door of Graham TV Shop?
Commissioner craham replied that it can be used as an exit but it can-not be left unLocked for entrance.
. Mr. Moore mentioned that it is the misuse of short-term parking thatis causing a problem. Customers with appointments for hair dressj.nE
sometimes require two to four hours and often feed the meters.
Entrance to the Safeway parking lot was investigated by Mr. Kirkup,
Sergeant O'Brien and Mr. Moore who attended a meeting with Safeway officials.
The problem is apparent to a1I , and their engineers will check the radiuses
for their trucks. They use that entrance as the best access for theirbig trucks to thc rear of the store. They would not consider giving it
up but will work to improve its use by other vehicles. I"1r. Moore illus-trated the route of the big trucks as they ingress and egress the lot,and stated agreement seems assured.
Traffic, Safety & Parking Comm.--5 January 13, 1977
l4:Egy Stop" signs. Mr. Moore has investi gated, and reported thatthere are
complete
91,000.
seventy-two signs at eighteen intersections required tothis project of insta]Iation, at a cost of approximatelyMr. Ki.rkup will report to City Manager Schwalm, and a report
w il1 then be available to this Commission.
Appl ication for State funds. Thereapplication for
to hazards and
info rrned . Mr .
these funds, which
roadway obstacles,
has been no
are for the
but Mr. Moor:e
Kirkup stated Mr.
of this nature.
Ki.rkup comrnended him highly .
Moore has done an excelle..r job of
The results of his efforts have been
answer to
purpose of
will keep
the City's
j.mp rovement s
the Commission
obt ain ing
very good
grants
and Mr.
P ark inq problem , Miley Trucks & Equipment, homewith notation regardrng City Council ,s action at
,January 3, 1977, rvhen they rejected Mr. Miley,sa home .occupation. (For information on1y. )
2. Chairman Podesta refpffed to
Elizabeth Anderson regarding herfor the opportunity of serving.
occupation. A letter
their meeting of
business license for
a letter from former Commissioner
resignation and express:,ng appreciation
OLD BUSINESS
1. commissioner surger asked about a hedge at the corner of AderineDrive and Barboa Avenue which was over six feet tall and extended outover the sidewalk, causing a hazard at, the intersection. Mr. I'1oorestated the Park Director had sent the noLice to them that they are invioration of the city's code. commissioner subbotin reported that hebelieved it had been trimmed. Mr. Kirkup wirl check it out and reportback.
None
The meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
FolJ.owing adjournment, the corunlssioners viewed a timelapse film presentedby Mr. l'loore, of the intersections of Rollins Road and Cadi1lac way, and
Broadway and caLifornia Drive. The film showed the traffic movementsincluding trains, if involved, and pedestrians. They were very favor-abry impressed with them and recognized their application to the studiesbeing conducted.
Respectfully submitted,
Victor T. Subbotin, Secretary
NEW BUSINESS
ADJOURNT1ENT