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APRIL 13, 1978
CALL TO ORDER
A regular meeting of the Traffic. s.ifety & Parking commj.ssion was held
April 13, 1978; called to order by chaj-rman Subbotin at B:00 p.m'
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Aliamus, Fo1ey, Graham,
Absent: Commissioner Gundersen. excused.
Others Present: Thomas E. I4oore, Traf f ic,/civil
Sgt. James D. OrBrien. Traffic
Subbotin, sulger.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
MII.IUTES
Eng 1ne e r
Dire cto r
Minutes of the meeting of March 9, 1978 were
Minutes of the special meeting held April 4,
a correction to Paragraph 3, page 1: Change
"minimum. "
accepted.
L978 were approved
the word "maximum"
fol l owing
to
CURRENT BUSINESS
commissioner Graham introduced James FehLhaber. visiting as an
for the position available on the Commission'
.rppl icant
Road
be
re cent
Burlinqame Avenue Area p arking. The
has been discussed,proposing that if
considered for additional parking' Mr.
information in thj.s regard.
Hiq hrvay P.oad from Mil1s Avenue north -
Post Office ProPerty on Park
j-t \rexe available, it migirt
Review. Chairman Subbotin reviewed minutes of City Council and other
tffiflsions.
Moore stated there is no
Mr. Moore reviewed the action taken
back to calTrans thei-r suggested plan
repIy.previously, rn'h ich
for the area. He
invotved referring
has not rcceived a
Ba front Traffic Stud
will be discussed as the
Intersection of El Camino ReaI at Hoi,rard Avenue -
At the request of Chairman Subbotin, this item
final item on this agcnda-
I4r. l.{oore rePorted that
this intersection thatCalTr:ans has noti.f ied the
they are rvorking on it.
citizen who lvrote about
Commissioner Sulger led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag'
Traffic, S.rfety & Parking Comm.--2
Parki.nq Lot Ticket Dispensers.Mr. Moore inspected thequestion, and the ciispensers are convenient for some ancl
for others. If they are moved, the pattern wilL just be
does not see any advantage in moving them.
April 13, 1978
two lots in
not convenient
reversed. He
Chairman Subbotin inquired if they have been operation adequately.
Sergeant O'Brien replieo they have been insta]Ieci for the past fouryears and require fairly Iow maintenance.
Chairman Subbotin inquired about col}ection of parking meter funds, and
Sergeant O'Brien stated ours is a one-man system. The advantage is the
man hired. He has been with the City thirteen years. It v,,as agrecdthat the obvious control would be the comparative collection amounts.
OLD BUSINESS
1. Commissioner Aliamus. inquired about a veh.icle vrith a boat which hasparked for some tirne on Carolan Avenue. Sergeant o'Brien explaj-nedthat the owner is visiting in the area. He previ-ously parked on Linden
Avenue and has changed to Carolan Avenue. $1r. l,Ioore mentioned that heis not inconveniencing anyone. Carolan Avenue is a wide street withgood visibility and there are not too many residences. Clrairman Subbctin
asked Comrnissioner Aliamus to bring it up at the next meeting if aproblem exists.
2. Commissioner Graham inquired about the ten-hour parking on ChapinAvenue, and Mr. Iuioore had no current information to relate. Commissioner
Graham asked about changing the parking timj-t on the east side of Chapin
Avenue from the G:.rden Center to Primrose Road from tvto-hour to one-hour.I{r, I'Ioore replied that he thought the cars vrere not going to go anlrrv}rereand it becomes merely a game with signs. If it were to be a change, hewould have to recommend more rigid enforcement, and Chairman Subbotin
recognized that more rigid enforcement would require additional financing.
He suggested that the businessmen should provicle some constructive
suggestions to alleviate the pressure on staff and the politicians. Oneidea presented rvas for the businessman to buy the meter in front of hisstore by paying the City an estimated $10O a year, take the meter headoff and put a sign on the stand that parking for one hour is being pro-vided, courtesy of Graham TV., for example. It then becomes the respons-ibility of the businessman to enforce the time limit. It is being donein some communities. It does not cost the city anything additional tomonitor that kind of prograrn.
Sergeant O'Brien mentioned the new constructions on Primrose Road; theFox Arcade, and the buildinq at Howard and Lorton Avenues, all within theParking District, and the number of anticipated employees involved. ThePolice Department receives so many conrplarirrts about metermaids when theyendeavor to enforce parking limits strictly
-Traffic, Safety & Parking Comm.--3 April 13, 1978
Commissioner Graham reiterated his affirmation that the City must pro-
vide parking, and Chairman Subbotin replied that it is not the respons-
ibility of the City. Streets are availabie on a first-come, first-
served basis and he asked who should make the decision about who shouLd
be using the spaces? Ir'hat is the best and highest LLSe of the land
fronting on Burlingame Avenue? Is it stores or office buildings?
Commj-ssioner Graham stated that if shoppers cannot use the street
the stores, there will be no sales tax. Chairman Subbotin asked
the businessmen or the property owners are r+illing to be assessed
provide additional parking? Commissioner Graharrr stated they are
paying off assessments.
near
if
to
sti11
Commissioner Subbotin stated that it is their property and investment
and they are required to pay. Commissioner Graham stated he could not
buy the idea of rnerchants paying for rnore and more ernployee par)<ing far
office buildings.
Chairman Subbotin suggested that i.f a new assessment were initiated,
the City could contribute in a very minor vray, but should not spend
general fund money for parking. Conrmissioner Graham stated the rnoney
derived from ticket dispensers is used Lo pay costs of maintenance ani
equipment. It shows a deficit. Chairman Subbotin explained that a
new assessment district ivould require those who increase their building
facility to provide additional par)cing. There are different ways of
distributing additional requirements. They would have to sponsor and
undenrvrite the cost,
NEiI{ BUSINESS
1. Corunissioner Sulger told of a lady who had solicited his signinq of
a petition to restrict parking on both sides of the street in the
area of the Recreation Center to five or ten minutes only; to demolish
the American Legion Buildi.g; remove trvo trees and install parking.
She has talked to Sergeant O'Brien. The petition o::iginated as a result
of a citation given by a metermaid. She is askir:g for limited parking
the full length of the Recreation Center. I1r. I,ioore stated that there
is a parking 1ot next to the tennis courts which is never full, about
one-haIf block from the Recreation Center.
Sergeant O'Brien said the lady v;as going to speak to
Director and rvill probably bring the petition to the
the Rccreation
City I'lanager.
2. Commissioner Aliamus asked if someone could look at the house on the
' southwest corner of Park Avenue and Linden Avenue regarding shrubbery
beginning to accumulate.
Traffic, Safety & Parking Comm.--4 April I3, 1978
3. Commissioner Graham stated ire had received ca1ls from three persons
concerning four or five cars abandoned in the parking area at the
corner of EI Camino Real and Broadway. It is a private parking 1ot,
but Sergeant O'Brien wiII check on it.
4. Chairman Subbotin inquired about moving the S.P:, Station at
Broadway. l'{r. Ivloore stated the project is rather far down on the
list. It could be advanced by providing better plans.
CURR.ENT BUSII{ESS (Agenda Item 4)
Bayfront Traffic Studv. Chairman Subbotin asked if the two meml:ers
representing the Commissj-on at the Committee tleeting have been invited
to the next meeting planned? Commissioner Foley stated he had not been
informed of the date of the previous meeti.ng and did not attend. He
received a letter of apology from the Director of Public Works rvho had
called four or five times in an effort to reach him.
Chairman Subbotin offered the sunport of the Commission in making any
decisions and rqo.uld call a special meeting for discussion if desj"recl.
Commissioner Graham attended and reported that there was quite al1
attendance of developers. The Committee, as a majority, discarded
Plan No. 1; also, PIan No. 3, tentatively, vihich involves maximunr
residential use. They are looking at Nos. 2 and 4, and the majority
of the Committee favored No. 2.
If residential use is not allowed, everyone would like to have good
hotels, motels and restaurants, but there are not enough to fill that
space. They figured it would take fifty years to develop rvith hotels,
motels ariA restaurants. The developers there pointed out that there
are no hotels interested in building right now, and hotels are not
financed by themselves, but by tl"rings close to them and they run at a
loss for four or five years. The Sheraton is probably the rnost profit-
able right now.
They took a vote on residential use. The result was four to one, with
one undecided. She f avored a Vioodlake-type of devel.opment which v,'ould
not require schools. If residential is permitted, it would have to be
two and one-haIf times that size in order to make it viable. The two
Planning Commissioners were particularly adamant against residential.
They did not say that they favored office buildings either. Their
preference is not known. Commissioner Graham is for residential use,
and Mrs. Barton undecided. They are going to bring up that point at
the next meeting.
They discussed, in some zoning way, an attempt to i.ndicate the area
Traffic, Srfety & Parking Comm.--5 April 13, I97B
between Airport Boulevard and the Bayshore for hotels. It includes
airport parking facilities. Therc is an empty arlea and Lhe drive-in
theatre r,vhich they believe should be maintained as interim uses.
Hopefully, in ten years, it would be available for a use more approp-
riate than office buildirrgs. That v.rill probably be the main topic at
the next rneeting. Staff vras requested to pursue traffic improvements
such as buttonhooks, ds weII as the intersection at Broadrvay and the
overpass at Peninsula Avenue
Chairman Subbotin asked if the
had the op.portunity to address
that they did.
audience, at the Commi-ttee tleeting,
the group? Conrrnissioner Graham answr:re<l
Chairman Subbotin asked if consideration was given to prioriti.es? If
the proposed irnprovements in the Study Area place aII .the other irno::ove-
ments in our community at a lolter priority? Ccnunissioner Grahaul
answered, No, they did not. That would not be the case.
Commissioner Graham remarked that the five agreed that the developr,rcnt
should not cause traffic to go above 11076, level of Service D, If it
shorild, then the development is stopped. There was some question bl,-
all five on the Cornmittee about certain aspects of thc count, concern-
ing how they arrive at the LOA% figure, There should be traffic counts
so they know rvhat is happening rather than assuming.
Chairman Subbotin conrmented that this leve1 is reached at certain times
during the year. Level D doesn't occur every day all day. He asJ<ed if
it has to be thirty days out of a year, or how many days during the 1'ear?'
He remarked that it would have to be monitored.
I{r. Irloore stated that it can be worked out. It is a matter of design
criteria. It is the intpact of traffic movement and not necessarily the
volume of traffic. T}rere are some movements that have much higher
impact on an intersection than others. Traffic is a major problem. I{e
praised the Drachrnan Report very highly.
Chairmirn Subbotir-r expressed appreciate for Commissioner Graham's report.
He offered the Commis.sion's services at a special meeting j-f the metnbers
cbuld support or assist in any way preparatory to the next Committee
Meeting. He distributed copies of IvIr. Keyston's letter summarizing his
presentation a't the meeting of April 7, 1978.
Respectfully submitted,
The meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
.Toseph A. Aliamus, SecretarY
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